“This is about you and me”: RJ Balaji on Men
RJ Balaji, a radio jockey with the 92.7 BIG FM station in Chennai, has podcast his thoughts on men’s roles in the home and how strong beliefs in and reinforcement of gender roles lead to a range of oppressions including the recent Delhi rape and countless other sexual crimes.
We are including herewith a link to the original podcast.
Our hearty thanks to Mr. Balaji for sharing his progressive views, and to Orinam member KMRamki for the English translation provided below.
Even though the discussion of gender roles is in the context of violence against women it applies equally to violence against LGBT people. Strong notions of how a man and woman should be/behave/look are what result in verbal, physical, emotional and/or sexual abuse of those of us who do not conform to such rigidly gendered expectations of society
– Orinam webteam
Being Hu’man’
(English Translation by KM Ramki)
A humble word, to all my fellow men…
I mean, for us to have pride, to feel proud, that we are men.. I don’t see anything there. I don’t know what’s there (to feel pride). You say we can grow a moustache… is that a superior quality?
Some say, “you talk about this now only because it happened in Delhi… will you talk about it if had happened in Chennai, or Thoothukudi or Sri Lanka?” To them, this is not a Delhi, Mumbai, state-over-state, country-over-country issue.
It’s an issue of you and me: it’s a vulgar revelation of what we think in our hearts about women. These rapes, the violence, have become just that. Even if only one in hundred, or one in a thousand men perform these acts, it is true that the rest of us also have thoughts that we are ashamed of. We don’t say it aloud.
For the first time, we are angrily protesting against something all over India, about something that affects us, with the intention that there needs to be a solution to it. Meanwhile, how long this anger will last, what the results from these protests will be, what will actually be done, is not in your hands or mine.
However, I want to speak as an ordinary man, about what we usually do, how it can create a better environment. That’s what this podcast is about.
We, men, say we are modern thinking, we are youth, etc. Though we praise ourselves so much, but it is deeply rooted belief even among us, that a woman has to cook for me, press my clothes, etc. Even if both of them work, go to sleep after 11.30 in the night, the woman is expected to wake up at 5 in the morning, make coffee, cook and then go to work. But if the guy occasionally cooks one day, he takes immense pride in it. Even today, we think it’s a thing to be (inordinately) proud of for a guy to say he cooks (occasionally). It’s actually nothing special.
Women don’t take pride in saying I cook daily, I press my husband’s clothes, I get my children ready for school daily, etc. We have impressed on them that it’s their way of living.
Do guys boldly say “I work at home, I cook at home, and I see no shame in it. She and I both work”? If we go to a corporate space, and see four women smoking, what comments do we pass about those smoking women? If we see a girl in a pub at night, we know what comments we make about her. Isn’t it all quite shameful?
What’s so ‘manly’ or ‘womanly’ about these things? We claim to be very modern. If a girl comes to the pub with us, she is good, but if she goes with others, she is bad? Smoking or drinking is going to affect everyone’s body and health. If you take a stand, that smoking or drinking is wrong, whoever does it, there is some fairness to it. But you claim guys can do it, but women should not. If I point [the hypocrisy] out, you challenge me, that I don’t know Indian culture and mores. It’s in this country with these vaunted culture and mores, that we are having all these rapes.
The most important thing is for us to reflect on what thoughts we hold about women. To this day, husbands tease their wives if they skip cooking one day.
There is this claim that all these are happening because women dress the way they do. What a shameful thought! A minister or some politician has said that we should ban skirts that schoolgirls wear. This is crazy. A three year old girl and a sixty year old grandmother have also been raped. Were they also dressed for rape?
This is not about the few rapists. This is about you and me. When we were young adults, how many times have we made jokes or passed comments based on the clothes women are wearing, or their physical parts? Has a woman ever made sexual jokes and harassed a guy based on his clothes? They never have that thought. We guys mostly think cheap thoughts.
We always say women are elegant, graceful and beautiful. I don’t know when these tags and adjectives are going to change. Are women nothing beyond these? Who are we to be moral police, to decide how they can dress, and what their dress says about the sort of a character they are? You and I have no right to to blame them, or tag them. It is also immoral to do that. We should understand that.
People ask why that girl was in a bus at 10 pm. Why shouldn’t she be in a bus at that time? Who are we to ask that question? They say things happened because that girl went to a pub at midnight. No, it did not happen because she went to a pub at midnight. It happened because your thoughts are perverted.
In this same India in which we used to give prominence and pre-eminence to women. But now, every woman is expected to fear and be submissive to a guy. It’s become the norm. If a guy does the chores at home, fears his wife, we make fun of him, and make him a comedy piece in our movies. What is wrong with that? What is shameful in that?
The other day, when I said this on Twitter, some guy replied, “Men should be men, women should be women. That will solve all the problems.” What does it mean, “women should be women”? Why should we define what women should be, how they should be? Who are we to do that? This question is for the menfolk.
If you ask me what qualifies to sermonize on this, I partake in all the chores at my place. I wipe the floor, I bathe our kid, I get him ready for school. I don’t feel ashamed of it. I don’t feel a need to boast about the times I cook at home. It’s just a part of my life. When my son grows up, he will not have the thought that women are beneath him, that they should serve him, that only his mother should get him ready for school. I wash my son’s butt. I get him ready for school. I feed him. So, my son, when he grows up, won’t have such [discriminatory] thoughts, and I am responsible for that, as his father. As a man, I will be responsible for the happiness of the women around me. I don’t know if I can change all the men in my country or change the laws here. But I can guarantee that my son will not have [discriminatory] thoughts in his head.
This is not preaching or advising. I cannot watch my TRP for everything. I could just comment on the latest hits and flops. But I am human. This is something that happened in my country, and affected me deeply. That’s why I am speaking out about it. I might have called fifty people and held a vigil. But that would have ended with those fifty people. I wanted to talk to more people. Lots more men. Change is something that has to start with the individual, in every household.
Using the Internet, Twitter and Facebook alone does not make me a modern man. I become a real modern man – a real man – only when I can respect the women in my society who are equal to, or greater than, me. When I don’t define what their role is, I do whatever they do. And I have no shame in doing the chores, beginning with cleaning the toilet. After all, I am cleaning the toilet in MY house.
This is just what I think. It has not been scripted.
I wish you a happy new year.
I applaud you! I wish all men and women too thought this way….
Such thoughts right now are well timed. Kudos.. And keep singing more. 🙂
This needs to be shared with entire India. All men and women of this country.
Very nicely written! I wish we could somehow drive this message into the heads of more and more men. There are very few people who understand the connection between expecting women to do household chores as a “natural duty” and rape. Both of these are part of the same spectrum designed to show women their “place” in society. You have managed to bring it out really well. Kudos to you!
This is great, what progressive thought , kalakureenga
Great Job, Buddy!
I can’t speak for others but I have adopted most of what you have talked about in my life and I am proud of it. I am proud of it not because I perform the chores but because I can clearly see now how these things should have been right from the beginning.
Big part of our problem is our parents! We have seen our mothers cook, clean and please our fathers every day. Our mothers remained silent when our fathers got mad. And that’s exactly what we were taught directly or indirectly. And when we think about marriage, we think of someone like our mothers who will cook and clean for us.
Thanks to globalization which has helped me mend my thoughts and actions. When I got out of the comfort of my home and started living on my own in a foreign country, I could see life from a different perspective. I started appreciating what my mom did for me when I realized how freaking difficult it is to get ONE meal a day! I used to get three meals a day and I used to get mad and shout at her even if there was a delay of 5 minutes. What an asshole, I was!
My wife has really helped me to understand these issues and she has been very patient with me I think. Thanks to her for making me a better man!
Girls and Moms – please educate your friends and family! It’s a lot more effective that way!
I admire you so much Mr.balaji .You have done a great job .many speeches are going around the country ,hope this one will change minds of some and make them to feel that we are doing is something wrong.peace my friend .you have done your part well .
Very well said Balaji. A man defines what a woman should be is like a “Dog defining how a cat should behave”. I a believer of Maru Janmam. What will the ‘Proud’ men of our society do if they are born as woman in their next janmam?! (I wonder)
If there is one man in the entire planet who has inspired me, it’s him. Patriarchy binds both men and women within certain gender roles; which means that it gives neither the complete freedom to be what they choose. Usually it is only women fighting against such roles. But to find a man who can be such a free-thinker as to abide by the rules set by his independent and intelligent mind, is awe-inspiring. I am amazed, and I salute him. Change begins at home, and he got that right.
Well done Balaji! Totally applaud your honesty and sensible approach.
Balaji, I think half the women in the country want to marry you, and the other half wonder if you’re for real.
In a country where most men behave like over-indulged children at home, its refreshing to hear a man speak so forcefully about the need to evolve more equitable gendered expectations. I’ve never understood why its considered masculine to avoid domestic chores.
In my opinion, a man who cannot handle domestic chores is yet to achieve complete adulthood. A fully functioning adult should be competent in all spheres of life, domestic, professional and emotional and psychological.
Rigid gender roles prevent both genders from achieving their full human potential.
Being self-sufficient
an article that needs to be published in every newspaper in india on their front page.
i watch indian home-made porn videos and ashamed to read the comments/headings of some of them. these are the same indian porn videos that are watched by millions of indian men and i guess that many uneducated or immature indian men identify with these images as to ‘what indian men do for sex’ and ‘how to treat indian women’ . regular use of the words ‘rape’ and ‘bitch’.these should be banned!
Amazing. Is there any way to share the English translation of FB?
Exactly my thoughts…
love you man .. hats off.
It is not only the man.. It is other women as well who judge.. If a man helps his wife, the other men sense the threat coming from his spouse. The male survival instincts come out and he will try to ‘highlight’ the other mans help and put the girl in a bad light.. diff scales for man starts from office and comes all the way down to house. I also laugh, when men say thay gave freedom to their wife. what do they mean by freedom ‘given’? Reminds me of zoo… Freedom in mens mind is the limit to which they allow their women.. The limit varies between each male, but is decided by men. Ultimately every male thinks they are ‘fair and square’… Fair and square to their own needs!!!!!We still are not there where a women recognised for what she is worth..
wow, amazing words. Great work guys. Hope v hear these words from every guy in coming fututre
hats off mr.balaji.thanks for talking fr us.if all the men in the world may think lyk u means nthng wrng ill happn to girls.we all love ur speech.u rockkkzzzz.keep gng.
Fantastic Balaji if all men think like u their will no discrimination between men and women hat off
Very well said, R J Balaji. And I know the impact such a man can have in a woman’s and child’s life because my Husband is like this. We share responsibilities equally irrespective of the chore – bathing our Son, getting him ready to school, working with the cook on the menu for the day, taking the car for servicing or fixing an electric snag at home. You see, the chore in hand doesn’t care if the job is being done by a man or woman.
Great thought 🙂 Hats off to you 🙂